Monday March 24th, 2008 @ 5:24 AM
I’m planning on getting a corset piercing in a month’s time, but due to the rarity of them in South Africa, I’m struggling to find info on them. I’ve Googled but keep getting conflicting advice regarding the best jewelry to use for the piercing. I know that corsets have a high rate of rejection, but I’m hoping to try heal it up and keep it permanently.
Microdermal anchors are out of the question. They’re just too expensive to import and there aren’t any piercists nearby that have experience with them.
I was considering rings, but they will hook and I’m not wanting to lace my piercing while its fresh. It seems pointless because the lacing will just agrivate an already difficult piercing.
Would surface bars be an option? I was thinking of getting them put in, then, if and when the piercing heals enough, change over to rings for lacing. If this is a viable option, what type of bar would you recommend and what size?
My piercist has done corsets before, but they were all temporary, so I’m looking for the best option to get it to last longer.
Lastly, what sort of aftercare regime would you recommend?
Thanks in advance.
They should definitely be treated as any other surface piercing project. The jewelry options should either be: A) Internally Threaded ASTM F-136 Titanium Surface Bars or B) Proper ISO spec’ed Tygon material, depending on what method your piercer prefers, those are the two ways that should be considered. My personal view is that it should be done with the Titanium surface bars, but others have had success with Tygon.
So ideally what you should do is sit down and discuss all this with your piercer. If they do not have a lot of experience with this concept, permanent corset piercings,etc…Definitely just keep it in the mindset that the longevity of keeping these could be reduced as a result…So long as you keep that in mind and you’re willing to let your piercer give it a try, then hey there’s nothing wrong with letting them have a try….But yeah definitely make sure either implant grade Titanium internally threaded surface bars are used, ideally with flat discs…Or use Tygon….
Also the reason why I suggest the flat discs is because it would most definitely reduce the amount of snagging/catching that would occur if you used regular beads.
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Wednesday March 19th, 2008 @ 1:30 AM
In one of your comments on a recent modblog post:
“. . .or if they are the BioPlast that is immensely rampant within the piercing community because they don’t know any better.”
Explain? I have heard nothing but good things about Bioplast so I would love to hear what you have to say.
Pull up a spot on the rug as grandpa is gonna toke on his pipe by the fireplace in his rocker and tell a story….Ok so I ain’t nobodies Grandpa and I don’t like rocking chairs and I of course don’t smoke…But I do have a lil story to tell.
A few years ago shortly after I finished my first apprenticeship my tattoo artist and I were working towards opening up our own studio. A friend of ours had a giant two level store front and they were willing to co-own it with us and help us get it all started,etc. So in my attempt to get the piercing side sorted out, I contacted VARIOUS jewelry companies for catalogs,etc. A few companies catalogs had something called “BioPlast”…When discussing it with them they talked about how great it was, that its cheap, it can be cut to size,etc. When I asked them for any confirmation in Implant Grade Specifications or Bio-Compatibility Specifications, they were unable to provide me any. Because of this I simply decided I would not want to carry said material because if it can’t be confirmed as Implant Grade or Bio-Compatible by ISO or ASTM standards, then it should not be used for piercings.
Fast forward to today, I’m a bit older and a bit more wiser and have done more serious research into the subject. But first lets separate the misconceptions that various people have involving plastic/flexible/bendy based materials:
PTFE aka Polytetrafluoroethylene aka Teflon: This is often used in the Piercing industry and not going into the environmental damage PTFE does to the environment simply put, ptfe has a implant grade specification number: ASTM F754-00. This means if a Body Piercer is going to use PTFE, this is the specific type of PTFE they are to be using…And it should be used in a manner, that does not compromise the ASTM F754-00 standard that is given to it.
Tygon aka Silicone Tubing: Tygon is a specific trademark named product, much like Teflon is a trademarked name of PTFE. There’s various types of Silicone Tubing some might be bio-compatible while others won’t, especially in a fresh piercing. For Tygon personally I think the ideal tubing type to be used is: TYGON® S-50-HL Medical/Surgical Tubing as its fully characterized to ISO 10993 and FDA guidelines for biocompatibility. There are a couple other Tygon brands that meet the same ISO guidelines,etc, but again there’s also a few Tygon bands that DON’T meet said ISO guidelines.
This brings us to the glorious world of BioPlast.
BioPlast aka Udel Polysulfone: Their website states the following: “Bioplast” Corresponding to the current state of knowledge it represents a material, which is safe for the production of piercing jewellery as far as biocompatibility is concerned (Ref.: Technical Bulletin biocompatibility of Polysulfones for Medical Devices MD 50136 R12/99). Now in my research I have been unable to locate any confirmed documentation, just speculation. Also last to my recollection any discussion in the medical world on Bio-Compatibility,etc will not be touching on the subject of piercing jewelry and the safety measures surrounding it.
In my own independent research of Udel Polysulfones I have found there to be a large variety of usages for said material: plumbing, medical world,etc. However when it comes to the medical world we need to observe exactly how Udel Polysulfones are being used. The following website lists Udel Polysulfones being used for: surgical trays, nebulizers, humidifiers; note nothing is listed in regards to Udel Polysulfone being internally inserted into the body (ie: a body piercing). Also when researching through the ASTM and ISO standards for Implant or Bio-Compatible capabilities, you will not find Udel Polysulfones listed at all.
Yes Bioplast is resistant to heat and steam, thus meaning it can be sterilized. But just because something can be sterilized, does not always mean it should be inserted into the body in respect to a body piercing, especially in a fresh piercing. Also and finally another lil thing is that the majority of BioPlast sold is for the Externally Threaded body jewelry line, as most piercers tend to just want to cram the beads onto the BioPlast piece. This of course makes it an externally threaded piece of jewelry and because its crudely threaded on, makes the threading on the post a bit rough. They do make special tools to create the external threading and even internal, but I’ve yet to see or hear of a piercer using them. Also as for their Internal/Push-In style of jewelry, I know I personally often have people coming in looking for new beads as their beads simply fell out.
Now I’m not going to say it can’t be used, as I believe it can. But I personally believe the avenue in which it can be used for, is more for troubleshooting problematic piercings. So by saying that I personally believe it should be a last resort attempt to salvage a piercing and troubleshoot the situation to correct it, not to be used for initial fresh piercings.
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Wednesday March 19th, 2008 @ 1:13 AM
I have the standard 14g horizontal nipple piercings. I ordered a bright, shiny new pair of Anatometal barbells in 12g. Is the .4mm difference really enough that I should be concerned about pain or use a taper (do they make tapers that small?)? Or, should I just have a piercer insert the new jewelry after I get it sterilized?
Will the .4mm make a difference? On some people, yes it will. However on others, no it will not. I’ve personally seen people slide a 12ga barbell through what normally had a 14ga barbell easily, mainly due to how long they had the piercing,etc. But like I said I’ve also seen vice versa where a taper was most definitely needed.
Yes they do make 12ga tapers, in fact you can get tapers as small as 18ga. For internally threaded jewelry I prefer threaded tapers, which means the taper screws into the jewelry and you just insert it all in one go.
Since you’re getting it sterilized you might as well just nicely ask the piercer to insert the jewelry for you. That way its all done in one moment in time…Tapering a piercing such as what you’re describing is very quick and easy to do for any piercer…
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Saturday March 15th, 2008 @ 7:21 PM
Filed under: Ear
I got my tragus pierced last August and I loved it… it was my moment of experimentation… I made the decision to remove it last week because I gained a teaching position at a local school and I felt it had become unprofessional because the student began to take notice to it (caused disruptions)… My question is will the hole shrink or close up or at least become less noticeable… right now it has gotten pink and stings every now and then… which makes me think it’s either trying to heal or getting infected… I need another opinion… thanks…
Have a piercer check your tragus out for you in person. They will be able to help figure out exactly what is causing the irritation. I could list possible reasons, but the list would get long and it’s definitely best to have a professional check it out in person.
As for taking out your jewelry for work, you can have it removed permanently without a problem. An alternative to this would be to have some clear jewelry installed that will make your piercing less noticeable or even not noticeable at all. If your piercing is well healed, this should not be a problem.
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Saturday March 15th, 2008 @ 2:54 PM
Just Wondering what the usual gauge a microdermal anchor is pierced? I read in the BME encyclopedia that a ten gauge was used. is this standard?
Also, are there pros, cons, different effects, anything that size would make a significant difference? I imagine it would need to be around a certain size for the skin to heal around it properly, but other than that I don’t see any reason why size would make a difference; you don’t see the shaft of the jewelry, just the ends…
The methods used by different piercers for installing microdermal anchors can vary. Some use needles, some use dermal punches. Varying sizes of needles or punches may be used depending on the area of the body being pocketed and the style of jewelry being used. Microdermal anchors are more commonly seen with a 14g post and a 3/32″ rise, but they have been manufactured in other sizes and lengths as well. Some piercers will use a needle or punch at the same size as the microdermal post, some will use a larger size. It is arguably more practical to use different sizes and lengths of posts for certain people in certain areas of the body.
Microdermal anchors can be manufactured in longer lengths to allow the post to protrude from the skin. This allows the ability to grasp the post and change the attachments on the jewelry. These are commonly seen with “healing nubs” as an attachment.
Recently, microdermals are more commonly seen planted without the post showing and the visible attachment treated as more of a permanent adornment, not to be changed. This keeps the jewelry closer to the body and minimizes weight and chance of catching/hitting/putting pressure on the jewelry.
Swelling can also be a factor for a piercer when choosing which method and jewelry style/size to use. The amount of trauma induced by the procedure as well as a specific person’s tendency to swell will help determine this.
Only high quality microdermals should be used. This is determined by the jewelry manufacturer meeting ASTM quality specifications. These pieces are generally made in titanium as opposed to stainless steel for a variety of reasons.
The design of the jewelry can vary greatly, so be aware of what type your piercer is using and why. They can be made with and without holes, grooves or tracks in the base or “foot” of the jewelry. This will portray their knowledge and experience with microdermal anchor installation and removal.
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Saturday March 15th, 2008 @ 2:40 PM
For years, I’ve been extremely interested in suspension; specifically the four point suicide suspension and have been since trying to hunt down a group around my area that could assist me through my first one.
I live in Cambridge, Ontario and a few days ago, I discovered IWasCured on the encyclopedia. The problem is, I can’t really find any way to contact the group and for some reason, IWasCured.com leads me to their gallery on here.
It would be amazing if someone could give me some information about the group and how I could contact them. I turn 18 in June and have really been looking towards doing a suspension sometime thereafter.
Thank you SO much.
You can contact Mike from IWasCured in Toronto at FaithInModernSteel.com or at [email protected]
He will gladly speak to you in regards to setting up your potential future suspension experience(s) with IWC in Toronto.
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Friday March 14th, 2008 @ 9:14 PM
So I’ve had an apadravya for ~18 months now - ~12 months at 10ga, then a stretch to 8ga for the last six months. Say I wanted to take the barbell out for an hour or two, how difficult would it be to put it back in after that time? Would I have any issue with the piercing starting to ‘close up’?
Put simply I’m afraid of not being able to get the barbell back in Sorry for the newbie question!
The length of time it takes for a healed apadravya to tighten up without the jewelry in place will vary from person to person. You can try testing it in the bathtub by taking it out for a short period of time and then putting it back in. This will give you an idea of how long you can leave it out and still be able to replace it comfortably.
If you take your apadravya out before sex you may find that the piercing tightens up due to the increased circulation that comes with an erection. It can be handy to keep a taper and lube on hand for smoother replacement.
Also, be sure that your jewelry and/or taper is highly polished and free of nicks or scratches before removal and replacement.
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Friday March 14th, 2008 @ 7:19 PM
This is just an inquiry of opinion. I’ve been trying to find out different peoples’ opinions on the APP. Yay? Nay? Elaborate!
If you are looking for a general opinion on the APP, that’s not a very specific request. I will say this though:
In my opinion, the APP is definitely a very helpful organization for up-to-date knowledge and resources in regards to the piercing industry. Their seminars are a great opportunity for piercers who are new to the industry to network with other piercers and pick up new and refined knowledge. The APP is generally regarded as an association that upholds the highest standards in health, safety & piercing and also stays in touch with international standards in the industry. This also makes the APP a great place for more experienced piercers to get together and update their existing knowledge.
They offer different levels of membership and they will recognize studios that meet their criteria on their website. All in all, I feel that they have a positive influence in the piercing industry.
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Tuesday March 11th, 2008 @ 6:37 PM
I just got my piercing yesterday and it hurt and it still hurts and it’s bleeding. Not a crazy blood flow it’s a very small amount of blood. But everywhere I’m reading on the internet alot of women didn’t bleed or it didn’t hurt much. I got it done by a reputable place the woman is a nursee.
I’m walking around like I just got off a horse. I love it and I think it was worth it and don’t want to take it out but how long should I expect it to hurt and bleed for?
I’m not even going to get into my feelings about medical professionals offering piercings - ok, I’ll briefly get into it, my experiences with medical professionals who pierce have been overwhelmingly negative, body piercing is certainly NOT taught in medical school or nursing college, and while there may be a few doctors and nurses doing a good job at it, the vast majority are almost certainly NOT doing it well, and generally have no clue about placement or jewellery selection, either. Ahem.
It’s normal for a genital piercing to spot-bleed in the first few days to a week after having it done, it shouldn’t more than a pantiliner could handle. Don’t start soaking the piercing while it’s still bleeding, obviously, as that will exacerbate the bleeding considerably! If it continues to hurt (and that is kind of unusual, most women find hood piercings to be fairly straightforward), I’d strongly advise you to find a reputable BODY PIERCER in your area and have a consult with them on the matter, they may be able to give you a lot more insight about the placement and jewellery choice than I can over the internet. And good luck with it.
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Sunday March 9th, 2008 @ 1:06 AM
Filed under: Ear
Back in the day my dad was a piercer and had his ear stretched to about 28mm. This was nearly seven year ago and for the last 3 years it has been barely noticable (just looks like a normal piercing hole).
I want to scalpel my ears (professionally, obviously), but was worried about the permancy of it. Will it ever close up like a regualr stretch or is it more permanent, if you know what i mean?
Any lobes beond 2 gauge should be considered permanent. However, in most cases lobes several sizes larger that were stretched will eventually return to there unstretched state. If you remove tissue, either by punching or scalpelling there is almost no chance of your ears returning to there unstretched state without the aid of surgery.
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