Differences in Results

Thursday July 31st, 2008 @ 10:34 PM

Filed under: Scarification

I’ve looked around and haven’t been able to really find any info on this but are there differences in the appearance of scars from different methods of scarification?

I’d like to get 3 bars (1/8th inch wide, each) scarred across the bridge of my nose and I’d like to know if different methods produce (or can potentially produce) different scars.

For example: Could/would flesh removal leave indented scarring as opposed to flat or raised scarring?

The face tends to be very resilient to heavy scarring, depending on your skin type and the method of scarification used. All of the facial skin removals that I have done have healed indented rather than raised. If you are looking for an indented scar, removal is likely a good route to take to achieve your desired result.

Keep in mind that the healed result of a scarification piece can be difficult to guarantee under any circumstances. Your practitioner may use an experienced method with a high-chance result expectation, but the method that the client uses for aftercare and healing variables will also affect the finished and healed result.

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Posted by Russ Foxx | Permalink | 1 Comment

need urgent advice

Thursday July 31st, 2008 @ 2:08 AM

Filed under: Tongue

hi. this is the second time im submitting a question because the first one wasnt replied.. perhaps i didnt explain myself properly? anyway, i hope you reply.

my tongue was pierced 1 yr ago. and im still studying. a change of teachers…. well.. long story short, i cant wear it. a typical school day for me is around 8-12 hrs.

so i took the stud out for around 12 hours..

when i reach home, i found that the hole is closing up. and i had to force my stud in. and when the stud is n the hole, it’s really tight, like it cant move properly. and it keeps hurting.

i did this for almost a week.. every single day, stud out for 12++ hours, in for 4-5 hrs.. and my healed piercing keeps hurting because i keep forcing the stud in.

each time it’s closing, i force the stud in. im real worried that it’ll get infected and such..

my question is, will it? is it bad for the tongue?

Your tongue hurts so my question is: “What does common logic dictate to you?”

Of course taking it out and cramming it back into the tightened up pathway is not an ideal thing to do, and the potential of infection is there if you’re not careful.

If its an issue involving the metal look in your mouth, try a quartz glass retainer to wear while at school. They can be autoclaved and used for longer periods of time then the plastic retainers.

That would be a lot more ideal then taking your jewelry out every time for school and forcing it back in, once school is over. And you can get the quartz glass in clear so its visually hard to see inside the mouth.

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Posted by Warren Hiller | Permalink | 1 Comment

re-piercing horizontal hood

Thursday July 31st, 2008 @ 2:04 AM

Filed under: Female Genital

I had my hood pierced (horizontally) about 14 years ago. I stretched it from 14g to 8g and ended up taking it out about 5 years ago (for no real reason other than a change).

I really want my hood piercing back, and I’m wondering if a re-piercing would be difficult due to scar tissue (I can feel exactly where the piercing was).

After stretching it, would it be possible to get a 14g barbell through it again or should it be re-pierced?

Many thanks in advance…

You got it done 14 years ago and its been out 5 years now. Thus means you had your Horizontal Hood piercing for roughly 9 years, which you managed to stretch it from a 14ga to an 8ga.

My suggestion/advice to you is to visit a piercing studio and have them first attempt to pass a Insertion Taper through the pathway to see if the piercing is still open and viable to insert jewelry into. As I believe you won’t need to go through the piercing process all over again, instead just tapering it to the right size.

So let them see if they can insert a 14ga Taper through the pathway. If that slides through easily, have them try to slide a 12ga through and just keep doing so until the taper slides through snuggly and without any resistance.

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Posted by Warren Hiller | Permalink | 2 Comments

BYO Jewelry

Thursday July 31st, 2008 @ 1:56 AM

Filed under: Surface/Unusual

I’m interested in getting a sternum surface piercing. I had an appointment with a piercer at a local studio a few months ago. I had called ahead of time and asked questions about their technique and jewelry and was told that they use surface bars and a standard needling procedure (since dermal punches are illegal for piercers in MO). Once the piercer started showing me the needles in the packages and such, he explained that he would be bending a straight barbell into shape for the piercing. This set off alarms in my head.

It’s been a while, so I don’t remember for sure, but he bent it right in front of me so I’m guessing he had to have used some sort of pliars. (Creating small scratches in the bar.) I didn’t really think about the pliers at the time, but when I looked at the jewelry, the bends looked very round, and the rise didn’t seem very long for initial jewelry. I can’t think of a better way to explain it, but they just didn’t look like sharp 90 degree bends like pre-made (machine-bent?) surface bars. This is what concerned me the most. I just didn’t feel right about that jewelry, so I opted out and decided to wait.

My question is… Is it common for piercers to hand-bend straight barbells into surface bars? Also, I’m thinking about ordering my own implant-grade internally threaded surface bar, (possibly the new flat kind, rather than round), and bringing that to the studio to be autoclaved and pierced with. If I decide to do this, I will definitely speak with the piercer first to make sure this would be alright with him, but I was just wondering if anyone on here had any thoughts on the matter. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help or offer suggestions.

Is it common for piercers to hand bend straight barbells into surface bars?

Simplistically answered: No, No and No.

No its not common…No it should NOT be done. And NO you should not buy jewelry and bring it to them.

It’s obvious with what you stated that the piercer doesn’t fully grasp the concept of surface piercings and how they should properly be done. So if they cannot grasp that concept, why buy proper jewelry to bring to them and put it in? Why not FIND a qualified/experienced piercer who knows what they’re doing and will use the proper jewelry to begin with?

Because why give these people your business when they don’t care enough to do the proper research and educational training/understanding to fully comprehend these types of things?

Each time a client gives in and goes to places like this, you’re actually helping the “negative” portion of the industry stay alive and actually THRIVE. Yet those of us who put the effort in and do things the best we possibly can,etc. Have to struggle and dealing daily with these types “botched” work.

Go to a professional that knows what they’re doing…Get it done 100% properly…

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Posted by Warren Hiller | Permalink | 1 Comment

Is My Piercer Telling the Truth?

Thursday July 31st, 2008 @ 1:45 AM

Filed under: Ear

I recently had my other earlobe pierced. After about 30 minutes, it started bleeding quite heavily for almost another 30 minutes at least.

After going back to my piercer covered in blood, he told me that it was completely normal and that it was most likely pierced next to a little “blood sack”, then as the bar moved around, the blood sack popped.

I’m not sure if I believe him…is he just trying to cover his tracks after a bad piercing?

“Blood Sack”? Is your name Lieutenant Kif Kroker and are you employed under Zapp Brannigan? Ya know cuz Kif doesn’t have any skeleton structure he’s supported by a bunch of fluid filled sacks.

I think what your piercer was trying to say was that he perhaps pierced a blood vessel/capillary vein.

Which might very well be a possibility if you bled that heavily. However when you say “heavily” how can you define that? Was it more of a simple flowing type bleeding or was it a pulsating type bleeding?

The one thing I can say is without being there in person its really hard to determine if he did anything “wrong”…Although I’ve yet to experience a client whom I’ve pierced, that has left and 30+ minutes later bled [i]heavily[/i], especially with an ear lobe piercing.

So I certainly wouldn’t say its “normal” but I’m sure there is a possibility of it occurring with some people.

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Posted by Warren Hiller | Permalink | 8 Comments

New Nose Piercing

Thursday July 31st, 2008 @ 1:38 AM

Filed under: Nose

Two weeks ago I had my nose pierced at 16g with a screw post. I have been washing it with saline twice a day and doing sea salt soaks (only starting three days ago) once a day. My problem is, I believe the post is too short. The part of the post that comes through the inside of my nose, where it bends at a right angle and then spirals, the right angle is up inside my nose. I realize this could just be due to swelling, but when I clean and turn it, the ball on the outside of my nose goes into the hole almost to where I can’t see it and I have to push it back through. When my piercer was putting the needle through my nose, he did comment on how thick my nose was. I have also developed a bump next to the post on the outside of my nose, but I understand that is rather common. It is however pretty sore sill. Do I just need to keep doing my cleaning since it’s such a new piercing, or do I need to go to a shop and have a longer post put in?


Just off topic…I think I’m going to start dressing up like a clown and carrying around a stocking with a some sort of ball in it so I can occasionally shout: “HOMIE DON’T PLAY DAT!” and swing the stocking at the people.

Anyways back onto the subject matter at hand.

Original poster know that Saline and Sea Salt Soaks are the EXACT same thing, but there’s a big chance that your Sea Salt Soaks mixture of salt and water are not the same as the Saline you’re doing. Pick one or the other and do so only twice a day, not three times a day.

Also what the Nostril Screw jewelry that the piercer inserted, pre-bent? Or did they look at your nose and using tools take a straight piece of nostril jewelry and custom bend the ideal shape you required?

Chances are since they commented on how thick your nose was, and that the 90 degree bend is apparently inside the pierced pathway, I’ll call it safe to say he used a pre-bent one. These pre-bent nostril screws are a HUGE issue/problem as they cannot be guaranteed to fit each individuals nostril properly. Not only that most companies only bend the nostril screws in one direction, whereas sometimes you need the curl on the opposite side. ie: Left bend or right bend for left nostril or right nostril,etc.

You’re options are to locate a qualified piercer who knows how to custom bend nostril screws and have them insert one with a longer post passing thorugh the piercing. That or remove the nostril screw jewelry all together and instead insert a Labret Stud, measured the right length to fit properly.

I bet once you remove that crumby pre-bent nostril screw and put in a proper high quality (implant grade) piece of jewelry (custom bend nostril screw or labret stud) begin to start taking care of it properly. Then that bump will start going away and that piercing won’t be swollen or sore anymore,etc.

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Wednesday July 30th, 2008 @ 10:40 PM

Filed under: Branding

I’ve had my heart set on getting a fairly large branding on my back. It will mainly be on my spine. This may be a silly question, but I suppose it’s better to ask than not. Is there a chance such a branding might affect my spine in any way?

Other than the standard risks of branding- not really. You MAY have mobility issues depending on placement and how the brand heals, but there’s no danger in damaging the spine if you go to a professional.

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Posted by Shawn Porter | Permalink | Comments

Post-tattoo shop return

Tuesday July 29th, 2008 @ 10:57 PM

Filed under: Tattoos

This is an ettiquette question. What should one do if she goes to a shop, gets a tattoo, and then upon returning home realizes that her tattoo is not exactly what she wanted? Such as just a general look of incompleteness? Most shops will do touch ups for free, so what would be the proper way to request additional work to be done on a piece that did not turn out as expected, and would most shops charge for that sort of thing?

If you saw the sketch, the stencil and the finished result and didn’t realize until you got home it looked incomplete, I would not be expecting free work. The best thing to do is go in, politely explain your concern and not put the blame on the artist, chances are they will at least cut you a deal, but I wouldn’t feel they should be expected to.

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Reverse PA with Hypospadia

Tuesday July 29th, 2008 @ 10:51 PM

Filed under: Male Genital

I have hypospadia…looks like a meatotomy. I want a reverse PA that exits behind the head on the top, but haven’t seen a piercing like this before. Can it be done? Why don’t apradavya piercing exit behind the head? Am I a unique candidate for this because of the hypospadia?

What you want is a shaft halfadravya. Look up shaft apadravya and halfadravya on bme encyclopedia for an understanding of what that means and the risk associated with piercing in the shaft.

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Posted by Sean Philips | Permalink | 1 Comment

2g to 0g problems

Tuesday July 29th, 2008 @ 4:09 PM

Filed under: Ear

I’ve had my lobes at 2g for probably 2 years now and my goal size is 0g. I bought one kind of SS taper that allows a plug to rest inside the end of it when stretching and my attempts to stretch with that have resulted in all kinds of pain, even with lubrication, massaging, etc. Don’t worry, I wasn’t stupid enough to force it once it started hurting. Thinking it was the taper, I bought another one that just allows for a plug to be butted up against the end. It looks much smaller than the first, but when I gave it a go I had the same problems. No matter how much I prep my ears for stretching, I’m met with huge resistance (especially with my right lobe) and I have to stop. I’ve heard going from 2g to 0g can be hard, but I’ve been trying this for about a year now and I’m at my wits end. Am I doing something wrong? Would it be better for me to just get my lobes cut?


You and I, my friend, have a little something in common…although I was at 00ga trying to go to 7/16″ when I ran in to the same proverbial wall. Without seeing your ears, I can’t really give you much of a definitive answer. However, it’s likely that you have simply reached the limits of what your ears want to do…at least in their current incarnation.

Some people don’t like to believe it, but each of us has a limit to how far we can stretch…and of course, everyone’s limit is different. How far you can ultimately stretch depends upon your skin’s natural elasticity, the placement of the original piercings, how “nice” you’ve been to your ears as you’ve stretched (i.e., forcing it and getting blow-outs makes stretching harder), the original shape of your lobes etc.

In my case, I believe I had run in to the limits of how far my ears wanted to stretch in the downward direction. My lobes weren’t overly thin on the bottom, but there was far more tissue at the top of hole than the bottom. I believe that when I tried to stretch, there simply wasn’t enough tissue in relation to my natural elasticity to allow the stretch to happen without much pain…and undcubtedly much tearing had I forced it.

My solution ended up being to have my ears cut upwards and slight back. This served to allow them to get larger pretty much only upwards, as well as helping to make the holes more centered on my overall lobe.

I would be surprised if 2ga is simply the largest you will ever be able to go, but it is possible. If you have very small and/or very attached earlobes, you simply not have enough tissue anywhere to make them bigger. It’s more likely that you may need to explore some alternatives to traditional stretching.

My suggestion would be to visit a piercer with a good deal of experience. They should be able to advise you on what is going on and they should be able to offer up some options.

Best of luck.

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