Stretched Labret and Vertical Labret

Tuesday September 11th, 2012 @ 4:18 PM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

I was curious as to how possible it would be to stretch a standard (center) labret while already having a vertical labret? I would most likely get pierced at a larger gauge and then scalpel. I’m just wondering if there’s enough room/it’s anatomically possible without putting pressure on the vertical labret and jacking it up.

I have personally had this exact setup so I can confidently say it will work fine. I had my labret stretched to 00g and had a 16g vertical labret at the same time with no problems. Just make sure there is a good amount of distance between the two.

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Lip Rings…is it for me?

Sunday August 5th, 2012 @ 6:36 PM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek, Uncategorized

I was just wondering if you think I would look good with a side labret lip ring. I really want to get one but I want to make sure before I do that I’d look okay with one. And if you don’t think it would fit for me…what would?

This is not a question I nor anyone else can answer for you. Every person you ask will give you different reasons for being pierced and getting pierced, but one thing that remains constant is only matters what you think and not others.

If you want one, get one. If your not sure, then wait. If you don’t like it once you’ve gotten it, then take it out. That’s the wonderful thing about piercings.

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Infected lip

Tuesday June 26th, 2012 @ 2:02 PM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

I wish I could provide a picture but all my camera devices suck. Basically I got my lip pierced exactly 2 weeks ago. This is the 4th attempt at double labrets as various things keep happening. The piercer ended up putting these ones too high and now it’s right under my lip but I give up, I want these.

Attempt #1: I had labret studs. Lips swelled too much. Studs started cutting into the back of my lip. Finally when I could no longer see them without pushing on them, I freaked and took them out. I regret this more than anyone will ever know.

Only once did I have an infection before (attempt #2), the piercer pinched a nerve and after several months of having them, I woke up with excruciating pain through the left side of my face and my lip was swollen around the ring which I had to remove with 2 sets of plyers over the course of 3 hours. The doc said I had an infection that just never surfaced and instead went inwards and the pinched nerve was close to being cut off from the swelling. So, I’m a tad paranoid. I don’t feel like looking like a stroke victim.

I’m more than sure that the piercer who most recently did my lip this time is a joke. He’s misplaced my rings twice now (attempt 3-4). I had the right side done to perfection and healed. He completely disregarded the fact that I asked him to match it. Told me to take the old one out “cuz it was done wrong” and when the swelling was done, I was very unhappy. So I took out his ring as well under the agreement that he would fix them for free. Well he once again, failed to place them where I asked. He put them right under my lip instead of where my labrets had been. Tried to tell me they were even when they weren’t and even giggled at me while my eyes were closed. I made him take the right one out because it was right on the edge of my lip, not under.

Anyways, back story done. I have the left side (where the pinched nerve was) done and it was perfectly fine until recently I started sleeping with my mouth closed due to some issues I had with dehydr

It appears your post was cut off so I don’t know exactly what your question is. If you’d like to resubmit it I would be happy to try and help.

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Posted by Ryan Mills | Permalink | Comments

Paranoid about my lip piercing.

Sunday June 3rd, 2012 @ 3:20 AM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

Hey, okay. I’m beyond paranoid about my lip piercing. I got it pierced with a 15g hollow needle for the SECOND time, the piercer pierced through some scar tissue. I got it pierced on 5/8. It’s now 6/1. The initial jewlery was a 16g hoop.It was fine for the first few days. I did regular SSS, and also used Bactine. Whenever you look at it, you can still see the hole around it. Does that make sense? I also recently had to change to a long stud. The long stud almost doesn’t seem long enough, due to the scar tissue.It’s also very red on the outside, and there is some white tissue under the flat back of the stud. Am I just being paranoid, or is there something wrong here?

Lips and rings in my opinion nearly always end with either an unhappy piercing or a greatly lengthened healing time. Changing it to the longer stud (to allow for more swelling and faster healing) was a very good move, however if it looks a little tight - go back to your piercer and get them to put in a longer bar.

Re-piercing old holes doesn’t always result in a longer to heal piercing, however it more often than not requires a longer bar to accommodate for the old scar tissue and swelling.

It’s very hard to tell what you mean by the white tissue under the inside, it could be the start of hypertropic scar tissue (assuming that it is ‘growing outwards’) or it could simply be the exit of your old hole. Either way, let your piercer check it out to make sure it isn’t anything to worry about.

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Allergic or scar tissue ?

Wednesday May 23rd, 2012 @ 6:24 AM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

Hi so I got my lip pierced on the right side with a hoop and it was healing fine and I was using the sea salt regularly. I noticed this weird white piece of tissue under the piercing about 2 weeks after being pierced. I tried getting rid of it but it wouldn’t go away. At like 3 weeks it started forming a hard lump under the piercing on the inside of my lip. It then grew into a lump almost growing up my hoop so that the entrance hole wasn’t even visible anymore. It would go down in size some days and after eating it Would be more agitated and get bigger. I was really concerned and went to my piercer and she told me she had never seen anything like it and that it was scar tissue from moving the jewlerey around while healing. I went to the walk in clinic after and seen a doctor but she didn’t seem to know much and told me it was normal but I know it’s not cus know one else’s looked like mine: and she did tell me it was not infected. I switched to a stud which was a huge challenge because of the way the lump had grown over the piercing, the stud did make the lump go down in size a bit but it was still there and hard and irritating to feel with my tongue. Finally after 4 months of no progress I took the piercing out and got the left side done the next day. I got this one done with a stud because i thought maybe the ring was the cause of the problem. It was healing so great up till 3 weeks I felt it getting hard under and around the piercing on the inside again. I thought I was over reacting and switched to a ring again cus I like them better. The bump was there again but very small. After a week of having the ring in the bump is slightly white in color and surrounding the piercing on the inside of my lip. I don’t know what the problem is. Am I allergic to some kind of metal or is it scar tissue ? But I was sure not to play with this one while it was healing. I don’t think it’s the ring that causes the hard lump because it started forming before the ring. The ring just makes the lump noticeable cus it doesn’t

It sounds like you have developed a hypertropic scar on the piercing, this is quite common with lip piercings - especially with rings in them initially.

It could also be the jewellery you have in, I would suggest to go to a professional studio and get a titanium post for it - just to be safe to make sure it isn’t a metal allergy.

I have had clients develop the scar tissue from playing with the jewellery during the healing, even a small amount of regular irritation can cause the scar tissue to develop. Make sure that you aren’t ever ‘tonguing’ at the jewellery or sucking it in/pushing it outwards - these are definite scar makers!

You can also purchase Asprin tablets (Aspro-Clear) and put 1/4 of a tablet on the offending tissue twice a day for a couple weeks, it will ‘bubble’ and fizz away the scar tissue and leave your healthy normal tongue tissue just fine. I usually only suggest this for FULLY HEALED piercings, but I have seen people use it with success on healing piercings too.

If it continues to grow or doesn’t go away after that, go into a professional piercing studio and ask them about removing it. Some piercers will and have great results (myself included), some think it is dangerous and will not offer it as a service.

This will only fix the scar, not fix the reason why it started in the first place. Make sure you don’t play with it and be very careful not to bump or knock it - or it will just keep lingering.

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Posted by Joeltron | Permalink | 1 Comment

Dahlia piercings

Wednesday May 16th, 2012 @ 2:24 AM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

I want to get Dahlia piercings in a few months, when I’ll finally be 18. I was wondering how the healing process is, like what’s normal and what I should watch out for. Also, would I be able to wear retainers or clear studs in them for school? And are there any extra risks other than the usual infections or scarring?

I have done a few sets of Dahilas in my studio before and find that they are more like cheek piericings in many ways. They do take longer to heal, require longer (and thicker) jewellery than labrets and can be more problamatic during the healing.

I wouldn’t suggest wearing any plastic (clear) jewellery in it for at least 2-3 months to let them fully heal. Often plastic jewellery will cause irritation and sometimes scar tissue to form. Perhaps you could get them while you are on a break so they are healed and happy for retainers when you go back.

As always, ask the piercer you found if they have HEALED photos in their portfolio and ask what length/gauge they used on them fresh and healed. Being a much rarer piercing than a normal lip, make sure you see someone that is familiar with the tissue and the correct inside placement.

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Wednesday May 16th, 2012 @ 2:08 AM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

I have had a vertical labret piercing for about 6 years now. I am getting a little bored of the jewelry available for it. Is it possible to put a hoop in a vertical labret? Or will it look awful.

Thanks a lot.

Although there is nothing stopping you from wearing a ring, however it will look kinda silly and will get caught on nearly everything!

If you want to try something different, you could put a curved barbell in with a jewelled disc on top or a spike on the bottom. Both will look sweet and give your old piercing a new splash of life!

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PTFE in Vertical Labret

Saturday May 12th, 2012 @ 4:07 AM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

Hello :) My question is: will a straight ptfe bar stay straight in a vertical labret, or will it curve? And will it being straight cause the piercing to reject/migrate?

I always suggest internally threaded CURVED metal barbells (preferably titanium) for vertical lip piercings as they put significantly less pressure on the area and will drastically reduce the chance of migration.

PTFE (and other plastic materials) are often a ’stouborn’ material and will want to do their own thing. You can curve PTFE and it will stay, however it will often be easier to spin around and could over time can begin to straighten and cause irritation.

Metal materials are always a much safer and more secure option.

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Arising Smiley Problems

Tuesday May 8th, 2012 @ 5:02 AM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

Okay so I’ve had my smiley for 4 or 5 years now and a couple days ago I woke up and couldn’t move it because it hurt so bad. It started to feel better so I thought it would be fine. now the skin around it is swelling and its a slight dark red. What is odd is that it doesn’t hurt to move my piercing anymore and it slides readily back and fourth, but there’s an odd smell and the area around looks worse than it does. Should I take it out and clean the shit out of the area? Should I go to a doctor or professional? I’ve been using listerene every night to see if the alcohol helps but it doesn’t seem to be doing much.

Also I don’t have a hoop in it but a bar like the one used in a tragus….is that bad?

I think that the smell could be associated with the over use of mouth rinse. Alcohol based mouth rinse is NEVER a good idea for a piercing (even if healed) as all it will do is burn the tissue and mess up your natural bacterial levels.

It could be to do with your actual jewellery, make sure that its free from scratches or barbs. Many cheap manufactures will have little burs or funny bits at the ends. I would also suggest to get a piercer to put in a quality captive ring, they are often best for smiley piercings.

Secondly, it could also be from plaque build up on the bar itself. It’s totally normal for this to happen, but sometimes it can trap a bit of food or cause an irritating rough spot. Sometimes you can’t even see it, until you take the bar out.

I would suggest to first try a brand new (preferably titanium) barbell in there and see if it gets better. It might also be advisable to go back to your piercer to put it in and get them to check for any little bits of debris that might be trapped in the fistula (inside of the hole).

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Re-Pierced Monroe, infected or not?

Tuesday May 8th, 2012 @ 4:45 AM

Filed under: Lip/Cheek

I just recently got my monroe re-pierced at a shop called Inferno. I’ve been brushing my teeth 3+ times a day, gargling with a alcohol free mouthwash, and I bought a cleaner from a tattoo shop that I can internally and externally rinse with, but it’s been about a week and my lip is still oozing and crisping on the outside. I had to change the labret the second day because the previous one had a backing that was way too thin and was cutting into my lip, so I disinfected my previous labret and put that one in instead. Right now though, my lip burns a little on the inside. It just feels bruised and really warm on the inside, I haven’t been touching it with my tongue much, just to check in how it is doing. It doesn’t hurt at all as much as it did, but I got sick this week and had a fever and I’m a little worried that it may be because of my piercing. I’m getting better, and my lip seems to be better, but if anyone could tell me a little information to comfort my tummy and mind, and maybe give me some ideas on how to make it better, that would be great.

I would say not to be too stressed out, it doesn’t sound infected at all - just healing. Chances are your body was focusing on healing the piercing and lowered your immune system which let a little flu or something get through.

I would recommend to go back to your piercer and let them have a quick look at the inside, just to make sure nothing is going on. Although changing the bar to a larger back (I only use 5mm backs for initial lip piercings) was a good move, its always recommended to let your piercer change it - that way you know its been autoclaved (properly sterilized).

Keep not touching it, that is a really good way to build up scar tissue and can stop the piercing from healing correctly.

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